One of the better posts I always remember reading is by Chris Pirillo writing about ways to eliminate the ‘echo chamber’. It’s a post that I’m sure many bloggers will find a challenge (I know I did). Here are his main points (in bold) with a few comments of my own (the non bolded stuff) on some of them. I’m not sure I’d be quite as extreme as Chris suggests – but there’s food for thought in the list and I suspect that enacting some of his suggestions from would add new dimensions to a blog (and maybe even help a little with the echo chamber thing too):
1. Don’t live inside your news aggregator
I was actually thinking to myself yesterday that my news aggregator and social media feeds have become way too central in my blogging. While I love the way it helps me to keep my finger on the pulse of many aspects of life I do worry from time to time that it has the potential to suck the creativity out of me as a blogger as it’s very easy to use it as a lead generating machine and allow it to determine much of what you post on your blogs. You also need to be aware that the algorithms powering these platforms just dish you up more of the same of what you’ve previously found interesting and interacted with.
2. Say something original at least once a day
– One of the results of living in your news aggregator and being a slave to the algorithms is that it’s easy to get lazy and to recycle news and ideas from others – at the expense of exercising your own brain power and developing some original ideas of your own. I’ve got nothing against bouncing off others ideas (I’m doing it now) but starting conversations rather than just responding to others or reporting on the conversations that others start can lead bloggers into a fairly one dimensional type of blogging.
3. If warranted, quote an “unknown” source
Chris is spot on with this. It’s easy to only read the A-lister and use them as the source of a story, but the fact is that there are many other talented bloggers who are saying similar things that also deserve attention. This is of course a challenge (as are all other 9 points) as it can be difficult to find the quality ‘unknown source’ partly because no one is linking to them (hence they are unknown). I guess what I’m saying is that sometimes it takes a little work to find them – but it’s worth it when you do.
4. Don’t link to the same site more than once every two weeks
I’m not sure I’d put a time limit on it but the principle behind this is a strong one. I hesitate to say this (for looking arrogant and not wanting to offend) but I’ve come across a number of blogs that link to ProBlogger in almost every post. It’s almost like reading ProBlogger itself they refer to it so much. Now – I’m very grateful for the links and am flattered by it (truly I am) but I also feel like saying to these bloggers (and sometimes I have) that perhaps it would be good to not only respond to what I write but to find some other sources for stories also. If their readers just wanted to read ProBlogger stories they’d subscribe to ProBlogger. I know it’s easy to fall into this trap at times (to different extents) as sometimes it’s just easier to always bounce off the one blogger with whom you resonate with – but in doing so you’re also likely to be creating a somewhat empty blog.
5. Wait a week before publishing your thoughts on hot topics
It’s always a challenge, with the 24-hour news cycle, to know how to write on a topic that everyone else is writing on. On the one hand unless you’re the one breaking the news your post can on it does have the ‘me to’ feel to it – but on the other hand you feel that if you don’t write something about it some of your readers might miss the story and you’ll end up getting email after email telling you you’ve missed it. Chris suggests that one way to combat this is to wait a week before posting. I think this is one good option as it gives you a chance to not only report a story but add your thoughts (which have had a week to mature) to it and make the post more than just a news report.
6. Create, don’t regurgitate
Lots of blogs report on the cool things that others are doing in their niche but sometimes it’s nice to be the one doing the cool thing in your niche.
7. Think twice before using buzzwords
Every niche has its jargon and buzzwords but I’m constantly reminded (by emails from readers asking me to explain what I mean when I use them) that quite often the people who read blogs and the people who write them live in different worlds. Every niche has its buzzwords and if you’ve been in that niche long enough you may just take them for granted but you should identify the jargon and think twice about using it, or at least explain it if you do.
8. Make yourself uncomfortable
I’ve long been a believer in this. It’s often not until you’re out of your comfort zone that you’re able to grow. It’s a principle of life and one of blogging also – too many of us are way to comfortable in our blogging. Instead, put yourself out there and do something different.
9. Stop whining (or worrying) about what list you’re on (or not on)
I wonder who he was thinking of when he wrote this point. I can think of a few bloggers that I might send it to who seem obsessed with their blog’s rankings in different indexes. Whilst there’s nothing wrong with have a well ranked or highly regarded blog, there’s more to life and I suspect the people who are concerned with them could be a lot more highly ranked if they actually stopped focussing on them and started blogging with creativity, originality and passion.
10. Stop saying we need to get out of the echo chamber
Hmmm – a nice challenge to end on – although… “The day for blogging about blogging, and podcasting about podcasting, is long gone.” OUCH! :-)
Here is one more of my own that came to mind while I read Chris’s list:
11. Look outside the Blogosphere
As long as we, as bloggers, continue to look at each other for inspiration, ideas and creativity we will limit ourselves. Read books, see movies, buy the newspaper, take a class or… if you’re really game… talk to a friend. All of these things (and many others) help ensure we ‘get a life’ and will help us to take our blogging to a new fresh level.
Chris makes some great points (some of which I went against in writing this very post). While I love blogging and the blogosphere – I do sometimes wonder if we’ve created our own little universe (language, rhythms, rules, culture etc). While it’s wonderful it can also be quite insular and self important. Like Chris acknowledges in his post – it’s not easy to get out of the patterns we (as a blogosphere but also as individuals within it) have gotten into. Hopefully some of what’s above reminds us to step back from it all occasionally and ask some good questions about what we’re becoming.
This post was first published on Aug 30, 2006 and updated Nov 25 2021.
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#9 hit home for me. Since my site is new, one of the things I have been focused on is getting my site up in the search engine indexes and getting on a few lists related to my niche.
However, I am realizing that if I just focus on trying to create quality, unique content then the rest should fall into place naturally.
Great post Darren, a few years ago on my original blog I could post topics where the original inspiration was the current topic on an email list. Now if I do that I end up being one of a hundreds blogs opining on the topic du jour. Now I read discussion groups and blogs *after* I’ve done some writing first, if I have to go back to add more information, at least I’m doing it to my original post and just chewing up what someone else has spit out.
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Funny, I’ve been saying many of these things for a while now. It’s good to see Chris (one of the real originals) pushing these points, not to mention Mr Problogger.
Hmm… maybe Mr Promagaziner would be a better title :-)
This comment started to be a point-by-point reply to each element — they’re all so applicable to things I’ve thought about and worried over and changed.
The one about ‘make yourself uncomfortable’ might just get a certain draft-post finished. I’ve been working on it off and on for a month, but the subject is so intimate and personal I can’t quite make myself finish. Even though (to encourage me) one of my sisters says that it’s a subject that a lot of people are obsessed with.
And several months ago I found myself linking to a friends blog two days in a row & I deliberately stopped and thought — this should be a comment on her blog, not a whole post.here.
I’m stopping right here — but I’ll be going back to the original source. This really got me thinking. Thanks!
I couldn’t agree with these ideas more. I’ve tried to create a balance of important links to material and news in my regional blog that most readers probably haven’t seen AND a good dose of original writing – which always draws a bigger crowd. The fact is, people can already go a million places for most the news and commentary found on the majority of blogs out there. As a reader, I want to read things I haven’t before, not just some bloggers ideas about the same old news everyone else is writing about.
One example: this week we had a tragic bus accident that claimed five lives. I wrote about other tragedies in my area (the Adirondack Mountains of Upstate New York) over the past couple hundred years that have been forgotten but where just as dramatic.
Tsk – that hardly comes off as arrogant. Though I wonder how someone would expect to gain a following by scraping off larger blogs. Not to mention Digg, and del.icio.us …
Uhhh… thanks for searing my eyes with that picture of Chris Darren. X-|
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Great suggestions for any blogger. I actually found few problems spots on my blog after reading this post.
Thanks.
#9 was my favorite as well. I post regularly at several message boards, and the hottest blogging threads always have something to do with ranking (Technorati, Socialmeter, etc.). While it’s great to be aware of where you rank the scheme of things, it’s incredibly easy to let the numbers warp your conception of success…
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I don’t really agree with #5. I think I speak for much of the blog-reading public when I say that I reply on the newspaper (and/or TV) for news, and refer to blogs for opinion and discussion. One week later, almost every spin has already been spun, and posting is just an exercise in vanity and SEO.
darren,
good post. i think there is a growing sentiment that the whole meme thing has gotten out of hand. memes are a double-edge sword: by jumping on the bandwagon, you become part of hot conversations and, hopefully, get some more attention from people interested in those stories. at the same time, however, you get away from your own creativity. in the last little while, i’ve been making a concious effort not to talk about what everyone else is talking about – and been pleasantly surprised by the response i’ve been getting to my off-the-mainstream posts.
mark
These are all good points, and I really like the “stop worrying about your blog” one.
Is it possible to be too invested in your blog? I don’t know, but some blogs sure read like the author is trying to get picked up by BoingBoing or Slashdot. It’s an interesting phenomenon to try to spot. I call it “content weighting,” as do some SEO guys out there. The writing starts to become stilted and awkward and sort of…fluffy, I guess.
When I happen across a blog with good content and writing that sounds natural, I’m pretty much hooked just on those two points alone.
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Funny, when I was reading this post.. I sort of heard a faint “echo”. What do you think?
for sure Vince – thats why I wrote that I’d broken some of them in the last paragraph. Definately a challenge for us all.
I don’t know if anybody’s noticed that, but everybody reporting on Chris Pirillo are doing exactly what he’s stating in the post. I just thought there’s a sweet irony with this meme.
The easiest way you can spot an echo is to look for the words “so and so has a nice post about something something”
1. They’re definitely living within their news agrregator
2. They’re not saying something original. (it’s really not! it’s merely their own spin on something existent)
3. Most of the the time, they’re quoting/mentioning someone famouse like Chris (at least he is now!)
4. Though they don’t necessary link to the same sites all the time, one can play six degrees of blog linking and come back to the same site again!
5. Waiting a week won’t get you links, nor will you get your readers respect, they’ll just say, oh… you’re so lame, Chris was last week’s news!
6. Don’t regurgitate? Need I say more?
7. Buzzwords? I saw blogosphere, echo chamber, advice .. the list goes on
8. I seldom find people will be uncomfortable. Look at all those trackbacks on problogger!
9. Lists are so yesterday, wait.. blog about that! And make it into a list if you can!
10. Yah, stop saying we need to get out. After all, we want your audience to be my audience.
As I say Vince – it’s an echo filled post and I broke his rules.
I guess I’d add though that while it’s got some great points – its not completely practical to follow them all all the time.
For example in linking to known sources – I agree we need to look for unknown sources etc – but sometimes known ones are known because they write good stuff. I link to people who have something worth saying whether they are known or not. I do like to look out for unknown bloggers and link to them but I’m not going to resist linking to known bloggers who have written something good just because people already know them (way to many knowns and unknowns in this paragraph).
I’m sure bloggers could well argue against most of his other points also as not all of them will fit with all blogs topics/style/voice etc.
I take your point that there’s irony in this – but I guess in most of what he’s written I’d aruge for balance. None of what he’s written would be something I’d force on another blogger or myself (and I don’t think Chris would either) – all of his points are useful points to consider and might help bloggers balance their blogging a little.
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I feel like I fall into the “quality unknown source” category, so feel free to quote me from time to time ;)
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On the flip side, Darren, there’s something to be said for participating in the echo chamber, I think. My coauthor and I have practiced I’d say 10 out of 11 of your suggestions here for a long time. We have a good steady readership, and I’m “proud” of the site.
But it has consequences. Now I’m not whining :-), but we don’t get asked to speak at all the big conferences, appear on TV, etc., and we rarely get linked to by the “A list” bloggers. And I’m 98% certain that it has nothing to do with our content and more about not being in the echo chamber as much as we “should” — or at least as much as we would need to be to maintain a higher level of visibility with that crowd.
Being overly transparent today :-),
– Scott –
I am new to the whole bloggin (is that like frickin?) thing, a week now, and already I know I need to get out more, am feeling pasty white, and am sure I need a Visine for Red Eye….if that tells you anything.
But
1) I am fairly sure it is Thursday and
2) Apparently I still haven’t claimed my blog on technorati (whatever that means) and
3) News does travel fast
4) For such a big, wide and varied space, the world gets very small very quickly
5) People, regardless of whether it is an echo or not, have good things to say
6) People, regadless of whether it is an echo or not, have good things to say
7) Blogging is addicitve
8) Never mind, this one wasn’t important
9) I do essays, not lists, for good reason, but have lots of visuals
and
10) Hopefully the fact that I am somewhat new to the blogosphere helps. What do you think?
1) I am fairly sure it is Thursday and
The time stamp says Friday.
2) Apparently I still haven’t claimed my blog on technorati (whatever that means) and
Not that important.
3) News does travel fast
Yep.
4) For such a big, wide and varied space, the world gets very small very quickly
It’s pretty big. People just settle into niches and forget about the rest of the world.
5) People, regardless of whether it is an echo or not, have good things to say
And bad things, and silly things.
6) People, regadless of whether it is an echo or not, have good things to say
Some say the same thing over and over.
7) Blogging is addicitve
Absolutely.
8) Never mind, this one wasn’t important
It probably wasn’t. But on a blog you’ll get more traffic if you say it.
9) I do essays, not lists, for good reason, but have lots of visuals
and
To get more traffic quickly, sprinkle an occasional list between essays anyway.
10) Hopefully the fact that I am somewhat new to the blogosphere helps.
Unfortunately newness per se doesn’t help. Fresh and informative will draw traffic– eventually.
What do you think?
Good start. Good luck!
simple but quality, thanks!n